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« on: December 25, 2007, 11:40:19 PM »

A few comments by former Nebraska assistant Dan Young in an article by Brian Christopherson in the Lincoln Journal Star (In college football, recruits are fair game).

With regards to the players who recently have decommitted, Young said:

“Who knows? If those kids got to the program, maybe they wouldn’t last,” Young says. “Maybe they wouldn’t have worked as hard as kids that know they want to play here.”

With regards to the issue of "Stars," here is what Young said:

“We didn’t really know who were the four stars (recruits), who were the five stars or three stars,” Young says. “You still got to look at the players and how they’re going to fit into your scheme. It just isn’t pure talent. There are kids out there that have great desire to come here. That’s worth something. You got to know what kind of a heart they have and how things are going to progress for them when it gets tough.”
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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2007, 01:30:47 AM »

Is this the same Dan Young who wouldn't recruit his last year here?
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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2007, 01:34:06 AM »

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Is this the same Dan Young who wouldn't recruit his last year here?


What does it matter?  That period of Nebraska football is long gone.  You know what he is saying is true.
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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2007, 02:46:34 AM »

Quote from: "UNK_LOPERS"
Quote from: "SCVHusker"
Is this the same Dan Young who wouldn't recruit his last year here?


What does it matter?  That period of Nebraska football is long gone.  You know what he is saying is true.


Great response.....some simply can't deal with the fact that the prior staff brought in "stars" and not much else with them.

Funny how many are being critical of the new staff and TO........and yet are still pissing and moaning about how SP and BC were treated....as if Solich and crew were treated any differently?

I love the fact the shoe is on the other foot for all the ANTI TO and BO folks........fact is, it is going to back fire profoundly when BO, TO, Ron Brown....etc.....turn this ship around and these "quote" real fans are shown for what they are....

Nothing more then "bandwagon fans" that were never happy with anything TO ever did or will do.....period.


Whining bunch of trolls....sounds like they would be welcome at another husker hole....."for real fans"...lmao.


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« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2007, 03:14:49 AM »

Quote from: "Huskerweasel"
Quote from: "UNK_LOPERS"
Quote from: "SCVHusker"
Is this the same Dan Young who wouldn't recruit his last year here?


What does it matter?  That period of Nebraska football is long gone.  You know what he is saying is true.


Great response.....some simply can't deal with the fact that the prior staff brought in "stars" and not much else with them.

Funny how many are being critical of the new staff and TO........and yet are still pissing and moaning about how SP and BC were treated....as if Solich and crew were treated any differently?

I love the fact the shoe is on the other foot for all the ANTI TO and BO folks........fact is, it is going to back fire profoundly when BO, TO, Ron Brown....etc.....turn this ship around and these "quote" real fans are shown for what they are....

Nothing more then "bandwagon fans" that were never happy with anything TO ever did or will do.....period.


Whining bunch of trolls....sounds like they would be welcome at another husker hole....."for real fans"...lmao.


Huskerweasel


an amazingly ignorant post ....
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« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2007, 08:22:51 AM »

Quote from: "DieHard"
Quote from: "Huskerweasel"
Quote from: "UNK_LOPERS"
Quote from: "SCVHusker"
Is this the same Dan Young who wouldn't recruit his last year here?


What does it matter?  That period of Nebraska football is long gone.  You know what he is saying is true.


Great response.....some simply can't deal with the fact that the prior staff brought in "stars" and not much else with them.

Funny how many are being critical of the new staff and TO........and yet are still pissing and moaning about how SP and BC were treated....as if Solich and crew were treated any differently?

I love the fact the shoe is on the other foot for all the ANTI TO and BO folks........fact is, it is going to back fire profoundly when BO, TO, Ron Brown....etc.....turn this ship around and these "quote" real fans are shown for what they are....

Nothing more then "bandwagon fans" that were never happy with anything TO ever did or will do.....period.


Whining bunch of trolls....sounds like they would be welcome at another husker hole....."for real fans"...lmao.


Huskerweasel


an amazingly ignorant post ....


Agreed.
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« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2007, 10:09:18 AM »

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Is this the same Dan Young who wouldn't recruit his last year here?


I don't blame you for typing this, but its an incorrect statement.  Both Dan Young AND Milt Tenipor recruited just the same as they always did.

That rumor was started by non-other than Dave Gillespie so there would be some "legs" to their "retirement."

As much as people can't wait to rail on the previous staff, I will NEVER give a "pass" to the one before that just because of what transpired with Bill Callahan.
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2007, 12:55:47 AM »

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Quote from: "SCVHusker"
Is this the same Dan Young who wouldn't recruit his last year here?


I don't blame you for typing this, but its an incorrect statement.  Both Dan Young AND Milt Tenipor recruited just the same as they always did.

That rumor was started by non-other than Dave Gillespie so there would be some "legs" to their "retirement."

As much as people can't wait to rail on the previous staff, I will NEVER give a "pass" to the one before that just because of what transpired with Bill Callahan.


Bingo. I have a good friend who coaches at a Nebraska high school. Back in 2001 he had a kid who had gotten some interest from the university. Over a few beers he shared the recruitment of the kid with me. He got a call from Coach Brown initially. Most of the conversation had to do with his 40 time and if he had decent hands. Well, he had decent hands and it was a good 40 time. Later he got a call from Frank. Frank asks, 'is that 40 time legit'? Yup, it is. He marveled that this was all they asked him. As much as he'd like to see any of his kids a scholie, he would not lie if they had asked what he thought were important questions. Questions like:

-Does he play hurt?
-Does he focus on offseason workouts?
-Will he shy from contact?
-Is his 40 in pads comparable?
-Is he a football player?

None of that was asked, and sadly, the answers would have likely kept them from having a scholie sitting the bench for 4 years. There were some lazy efforts by many of the staff, and that came more from the structure than anything else.
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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2007, 02:25:44 AM »

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Quote from: "SCVHusker"
Is this the same Dan Young who wouldn't recruit his last year here?


What does it matter?  That period of Nebraska football is long gone.  You know what he is saying is true.


Well, it matters because IF he is the person who was let go because he wouldn't recruit then maybe ... he's not the best person to tell us about recruiting.

That period is only long gone when you want to ignore a point and of course not long gone when you want to make a point.

Oh, and NO I don't know what he is saying is true.  Another Oh, who's the weasel and why is he adding ignorant posting to yours?
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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2007, 08:25:29 AM »

Quote from: "LarstheRed"
Quote from: "BigRedArmy"
Quote from: "SCVHusker"
Is this the same Dan Young who wouldn't recruit his last year here?


I don't blame you for typing this, but its an incorrect statement.  Both Dan Young AND Milt Tenipor recruited just the same as they always did.

That rumor was started by non-other than Dave Gillespie so there would be some "legs" to their "retirement."

As much as people can't wait to rail on the previous staff, I will NEVER give a "pass" to the one before that just because of what transpired with Bill Callahan.


Bingo. I have a good friend who coaches at a Nebraska high school. Back in 2001 he had a kid who had gotten some interest from the university. Over a few beers he shared the recruitment of the kid with me. He got a call from Coach Brown initially. Most of the conversation had to do with his 40 time and if he had decent hands. Well, he had decent hands and it was a good 40 time. Later he got a call from Frank. Frank asks, 'is that 40 time legit'? Yup, it is. He marveled that this was all they asked him. As much as he'd like to see any of his kids a scholie, he would not lie if they had asked what he thought were important questions. Questions like:

-Does he play hurt?
-Does he focus on offseason workouts?
-Will he shy from contact?
-Is his 40 in pads comparable?
-Is he a football player?

None of that was asked, and sadly, the answers would have likely kept them from having a scholie sitting the bench for 4 years. There were some lazy efforts by many of the staff, and that came more from the structure than anything else.
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I think that unfortunately was due more to Solich's lack of Leadership than anything else.  These same coaches recruited like mad under TO. Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2007, 08:33:56 AM »

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Is this the same Dan Young who wouldn't recruit his last year here?


This was also my first knee jerk thought, a reporter probably asked retired coach Young about todays recruiting and he talked about what he knew in the Day.
He was talking historically, like taking to the old mechanic that worked on your fuel injected 57 Chev, he knew about Then.
I think there were a bunch of coaches that didn't do much recruiting for the program in Frank's rein.
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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2007, 11:04:05 AM »

Quote from: "huskermike10"
Quote from: "LarstheRed"
Quote from: "BigRedArmy"
Quote from: "SCVHusker"
Is this the same Dan Young who wouldn't recruit his last year here?


I don't blame you for typing this, but its an incorrect statement.  Both Dan Young AND Milt Tenipor recruited just the same as they always did.

That rumor was started by non-other than Dave Gillespie so there would be some "legs" to their "retirement."

As much as people can't wait to rail on the previous staff, I will NEVER give a "pass" to the one before that just because of what transpired with Bill Callahan.


Bingo. I have a good friend who coaches at a Nebraska high school. Back in 2001 he had a kid who had gotten some interest from the university. Over a few beers he shared the recruitment of the kid with me. He got a call from Coach Brown initially. Most of the conversation had to do with his 40 time and if he had decent hands. Well, he had decent hands and it was a good 40 time. Later he got a call from Frank. Frank asks, 'is that 40 time legit'? Yup, it is. He marveled that this was all they asked him. As much as he'd like to see any of his kids a scholie, he would not lie if they had asked what he thought were important questions. Questions like:

-Does he play hurt?
-Does he focus on offseason workouts?
-Will he shy from contact?
-Is his 40 in pads comparable?
-Is he a football player?

None of that was asked, and sadly, the answers would have likely kept them from having a scholie sitting the bench for 4 years. There were some lazy efforts by many of the staff, and that came more from the structure than anything else.
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I think that unfortunately was due more to Solich's lack of Leadership than anything else.  These same coaches recruited like mad under TO. Smiley

I completely agree, Mike, I was just trying to be neutral in bring up a certain coaches name as the weak link. 'Structure' was my attempt at not directly pointing fingers.
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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2007, 11:22:10 AM »

Quote from: "LarstheRed"
Quote from: "BigRedArmy"
Quote from: "SCVHusker"
Is this the same Dan Young who wouldn't recruit his last year here?


I don't blame you for typing this, but its an incorrect statement.  Both Dan Young AND Milt Tenipor recruited just the same as they always did.

That rumor was started by non-other than Dave Gillespie so there would be some "legs" to their "retirement."

As much as people can't wait to rail on the previous staff, I will NEVER give a "pass" to the one before that just because of what transpired with Bill Callahan.


Bingo. I have a good friend who coaches at a Nebraska high school. Back in 2001 he had a kid who had gotten some interest from the university. Over a few beers he shared the recruitment of the kid with me. He got a call from Coach Brown initially. Most of the conversation had to do with his 40 time and if he had decent hands. Well, he had decent hands and it was a good 40 time. Later he got a call from Frank. Frank asks, 'is that 40 time legit'? Yup, it is. He marveled that this was all they asked him. As much as he'd like to see any of his kids a scholie, he would not lie if they had asked what he thought were important questions. Questions like:

-Does he play hurt?
-Does he focus on offseason workouts?
-Will he shy from contact?
-Is his 40 in pads comparable?
-Is he a football player?

None of that was asked, and sadly, the answers would have likely kept them from having a scholie sitting the bench for 4 years. There were some lazy efforts by many of the staff, and that came more from the structure than anything else.


I looked back at the '01 and '02 recruiting classes and don't see any Nebraska kids that could possibly fit that bill.  The only one I can see that would possibly fit this bill would be Mike McLaughlin.

Are you suggesting that they might not have given McLaughlin a scholie if they had asked the right questions???

Or am I looking at the wrong recruiting classes?

BTW, that '01 class was top ten on both Rivals and Scout.
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« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2007, 11:54:52 AM »

Young was one heck of a OL Coach and Special Teams Guru-puts this last regime to shame.
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« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2007, 12:25:31 PM »

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Bingo. I have a good friend who coaches at a Nebraska high school. Back in 2001 he had a kid who had gotten some interest from the university. Over a few beers he shared the recruitment of the kid with me. He got a call from Coach Brown initially. Most of the conversation had to do with his 40 time and if he had decent hands. Well, he had decent hands and it was a good 40 time. Later he got a call from Frank. Frank asks, 'is that 40 time legit'? Yup, it is. He marveled that this was all they asked him. As much as he'd like to see any of his kids a scholie, he would not lie if they had asked what he thought were important questions. Questions like:

-Does he play hurt?
-Does he focus on offseason workouts?
-Will he shy from contact?
-Is his 40 in pads comparable?
-Is he a football player?

None of that was asked, and sadly, the answers would have likely kept them from having a scholie sitting the bench for 4 years. There were some lazy efforts by many of the staff, and that came more from the structure than anything else.


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I looked back at the '01 and '02 recruiting classes and don't see any Nebraska kids that could possibly fit that bill.  The only one I can see that would possibly fit this bill would be Mike McLaughlin.

Are you suggesting that they might not have given McLaughlin a scholie if they had asked the right questions???

Or am I looking at the wrong recruiting classes?

BTW, that '01 class was top ten on both Rivals and Scout.


This is who I was thinking of--only other scholarship TE in that timeframe was Matt Herian, and he didn't sit the bench:

Class of 1999

Chris Septak
TE...6-4...245...Omaha, Neb. (Millard West)
Nebraska’s first oral commitment, Chris Septak indicated he would sign with the Huskers in February, 1999. One of the most decorated signees, tight end Septak is an All-American according to Rivals100.com, PrepStar and SuperPrep. He also earned honorable-mention All-America honors from USA Today. Septak is listed as the No. 2, No. 5 and No. 9 best tight end by the same publications, respectively. He was a Lincoln Journal Star Super-State honoree and the LJS defensive player of the year. The Omaha World-Herald named him to its All-Nebraska defensive team as well. He was a member of the Gatorade Circle of Champions as Nebraska’s player of the year. In the summer, Septak attended the Big Red Football School. Although he had just 12 catches for 200 yards in 1999, Septak emerged as one of the best tight ends this season, partly because of his dominating blocking skills. Septak is one of six native Nebraskans to sign with the Huskers in 2000 and one of four from Omaha. All four from Omaha come from different high schools, with Septak playing for Coach Dan McLaughlin at Millard West. The son of Larry and Debra Septak, Chris was born on Oct. 15, 1981.
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