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« on: October 24, 2010, 12:20:01 AM »

Yes, we won. Yes, Taylor played great. Yes, Watson did a great job today. Yes, special teams was pretty good. and yes, the defense held.

So what am i whining about? well, the Secondary. i thought they were supposed to be our best unit, but with the exception of dennard and hagg, its looked like this lately: they look soft. for all their speed, they aren't as physical as i thought they'd be. the signs are all there: missed tackles, opportunities for less yardage given up, being driven back by ball carriers and indecisiveness. and it isn't just about the 41 points neither...its a trend thats been developing lately. i wonder if its just a matter of being too cautious and not letting it all hang out, or what the deal is...but i sure hope they can fix it by next week. anyone else care for nitpicking?
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2010, 12:41:21 AM »

This is not nitpicking it's a real concern.  Prince got beat on a flee flicker it happens, but not making the tackle on the 30 yard line was big.  Bo feels he can clean those things you mention up in time for Misery.  I hope so.
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2010, 01:30:09 AM »

This is not nitpicking it's a real concern.  Prince got beat on a flee flicker it happens, but not making the tackle on the 30 yard line was big.  Bo feels he can clean those things you mention up in time for Misery.  I hope so.

the ball was underthrown, when blackmon slowed up prince didnt slow up and ran by him. it took him out of position to make the tackle and left him off balance to catch him.
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2010, 02:37:30 AM »

This is not nitpicking it's a real concern.  Prince got beat on a flee flicker it happens, but not making the tackle on the 30 yard line was big.  Bo feels he can clean those things you mention up in time for Misery.  I hope so.

the ball was underthrown, when blackmon slowed up prince didnt slow up and ran by him. it took him out of position to make the tackle and left him off balance to catch him.


So you are basically saying Prince didn't see the ball (the obvious) and didn't play the man (the mistake).  That was my point.
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2010, 03:30:26 AM »

Is it just me, or was every big pass play a crappy pass?  Most of the time, our corners were playing the ball like a perfect pass.  When it got underthrown, their WR's were able to make a play on the ball. 
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2010, 07:23:53 AM »

This is not nitpicking it's a real concern.  Prince got beat on a flee flicker it happens, but not making the tackle on the 30 yard line was big.  Bo feels he can clean those things you mention up in time for Misery.  I hope so.


You have got to give OSU credit.  IMO that is the best offense in the big 12.  They really played well.  Hunter is the best RB in the big 12 and he played like it.  No matter how good your defense is there is going to be games where they aren't great. Even NU's vaunted defenses of the 90's had less than steller games against good teams and we still one.  I am happy for the win.  Next week is next week.  Different game different team different situation.
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2010, 07:56:52 AM »

This is not nitpicking it's a real concern.  Prince got beat on a flee flicker it happens, but not making the tackle on the 30 yard line was big.  Bo feels he can clean those things you mention up in time for Misery.  I hope so.

the ball was underthrown, when blackmon slowed up prince didnt slow up and ran by him. it took him out of position to make the tackle and left him off balance to catch him.


So you are basically saying Prince didn't see the ball (the obvious) and didn't play the man (the mistake).  That was my point.

Sorry SCV I disagree.  Under thrown balls are a bear to defend against.  That was a huge reason OSU made some of their bigger catches.  There was another WR for OSU who caught one along the sideline and Weeden purposely under threw the ball.  Prince played his man.  His man stopped and came back to get the under throw, by that time Prince went right by him.  Had Prince played the ball maybe that pass isn't completed.
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2010, 10:31:25 AM »

I didn't have much of a problem with the secondary.  I don't recall seeing any OSU receivers running completely free.  In most cases, there was a Husker corner right on the receiver.  In years past, opposing receivers would consistently have 2-3 steps on the Husker corners.
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2010, 10:36:49 AM »

Most of the time, our corners were playing the ball like a perfect pass.  When it got underthrown, their WR's were able to make a play on the ball. 

Bo said almost this exact thing during the halftime interview.  He said our guys were there but just weren't making plays on the ball.
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2010, 10:48:11 AM »

Is it just me, or was every big pass play a crappy pass?  Most of the time, our corners were playing the ball like a perfect pass.  When it got underthrown, their WR's were able to make a play on the ball.  

i commented about this on another post. I'm not too worried about our secondary because, as others said, under thrown balls are hard to defend. Could our backs have still made a play? Maybe in some instances. But they weren't expecting the under thrown passes.
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2010, 10:55:07 AM »

We had great coverage on 2-3 big plays that I remember. When they underthrow in single coverage, and the WR breaks back first, it's nearly impossible to break that play up without getting a PI call.

That OSU offense is very good, and they have good balance (at least against us) so it's hard to defend. Mizzou is a much less physical running team (although they did some good things last night). I think we match up better against a team like Mizzou.
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2010, 01:20:14 PM »

Nobody has been able to stop OSU this year you can slow them down but the only way to beat them is by getting one or two stops and score off of them.  OU cant stop them and neither will Texas The run was mixed in there to take time off the clock the pass was to nail the coffin shut, give OSU credit they have the best back and WR in the League we were unable to stop them and neither will anybody else all you can do is limit the damage and move on Nebraska did with 41 points.  Is it disappointing that they scored that many points yes it was.  But how do you think they feel still being on cousre for their average and still loosing the game.  We faced the best that the Big 12 has to offer and won.  Mizou does not have that talent on offense they only looked good last night because OU made them look good.  There defense looked good but they have not faced a offense like what they are gonna face next saturday.  Shawn has proven we can run and throw he has given creditbility to the offense.  No we will see what Wats has dialed in for saturday and see if OSU game was a fluke.
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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2010, 01:53:54 PM »

I didn't have much of a problem with the secondary.  I don't recall seeing any OSU receivers running completely free.  In most cases, there was a Husker corner right on the receiver.  In years past, opposing receivers would consistently have 2-3 steps on the Husker corners.

again, this issue wit the secondary has NOTHING to do with their coverage skills... There are no issues in that area. We all know now that the Dline either just isn't that great, or is trained to simply filter plays out to places where linebackers and DBs can make better plays on the ball. So in light of that fact, the secondary has not been making those plays. they whiff on tackles, they get carried by ball carriers after contact, and they don't seem as energetic and hyper as last year...again, except dennard and hagg. That's the concern.
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2010, 01:55:04 PM »

I agree with those who side on "underthrown balls being a bugger to defend". I've never played on the level where it was done intentionally so when it happened it was not prepared for or expected. You were taught technique and you , as a defender, you had to guesstimate moves. An underthrown ball was not in our vocabulary to plan for. Double coverage was the best answer, but not always.....did anyone see the KC game this weekend? An underthrown ball...two defenders and a reception.....sh$$ happens.
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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2010, 02:10:06 PM »

This is not nitpicking it's a real concern.  Prince got beat on a flee flicker it happens, but not making the tackle on the 30 yard line was big.  Bo feels he can clean those things you mention up in time for Misery.  I hope so.

the ball was underthrown, when blackmon slowed up prince didnt slow up and ran by him. it took him out of position to make the tackle and left him off balance to catch him.


And Pince was supposed to have help over the top from a Safety. The safety bought on the play action.  Had the safety been in place there would have been very few yards after the catch. But he wasn't so it appears that Prince gave up a big play..
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