BHF Caucus - The Solve candidate or the Complain Candidate

[Husker316]

I have already identified my issues and ready to make the changes (SOLVE) to be a NC!!!! - BHF put me in 

[Sexy Leather]

I'm sitting with the Solve candidate, Solve will take a fact based look at the situation and develop a positive outlook and plan moving forward. Solve will winnow out SINOs (Solve in name only).  

The Complain candidate represents all the bitching, whining, woe is me, cry in my soup crowd.

How do you register?

I'm a solver.  

* OL needs to remember the snap count.
* WRs need to catch the passes that hit them in the hands.
* Fumbles and interceptions need to be reduced.
* More effort, intensity, focus and concentration on each snap.
* Maintaining and finishing blocks.
* Mental toughness / vocal leadership is needed.

Nebraska would probably be undefeated if those above mentioned bullet points occurred.

It's like General George Patton once said, (paraphrasing) "I'm not going to die for my country, I'm going to make the other guy die for his."  The parallel to football is: I might make a mistake, but I'm going to make sure that my opponent dearly pays for his.

In summary, both Nebraska and South Carolina made numerous mistakes in this game.  The difference they made us pay for ours.

[Solly]

Complaints are a sign of excitement, usually in an effort to ward off change.  Criticism is a one aspect of complaint, just in a direction to steer towards an expected goal.  The problem for some is that they complain now when it should have been done the day TO retired.  He had one more MNC in him.

More than one, I'd wager. If he stays, Ahman Green might not leave early, and you have Eric Crouch optioning the edge with Green ready for the pitch.

Defensive backs coming up in run support might have spontaneously combusted, facing that choice.

Then you have the 1999 squad that was easily the best team in the nation by season's end. I'd bet Tom finds a way to win down in Austin, and it isn't a debatable point which team is best. And McBride probably doesn't retire.

2000, NU was 10-2, with a single-point loss at KSU and a meltdown against OU, blowing a sizable 1st quarter lead.

2001, Colorado probably doesn't happen with Osborne and McBride on the sidelines, and maybe at least a respectable showing against Miami in the Rose Bowl.

And none of this takes into account the likely better caliber of recruits or NU still having the best RB coach in the business, Frank Solich, doing what he did best, or seeing what Osborne's offense could do with Crouch as an enhancement, rather than the start and finish of it.

If only...

[bowz]

To be honest with you no fan base can survive without the emotional and the logical.  Emotion, passion describes Husker football and its fans, but so does logic, reason and intelligence.

Does that mean I just voted for a 3rd party candidate? Crap my relatives are going to kill me...

[Red Ghost]

Complaints are a sign of excitement, usually in an effort to ward off change.  Criticism is a one aspect of complaint, just in a direction to steer towards an expected goal.  The problem for some is that they complain now when it should have been done the day TO retired.  He had one more MNC in him.

I complained a lot when Osborne retired.  My complaints went something like this.....

It took TO 20 years as a head coach to really figure things out.  Once he did, he gave us the greatest five years in the history of NU football.  But then he retired when he was way too young and had a lot of good years left.  And on the way out the door he stuck us with Solich.   

[CPH11]

I can describe the two candidates quite easily.

One is an emotional thinker. Reacts with emotion to the events he/she faces.

The other is a logical thinker. Doesn't react with knee-jerk emotions to the events he/she faces.

(Works for relationships/marriages too. My wife is an emotional thinker with everything in life. Her: "Oh isn't that a cute puppy. I want it!"  Me: "yes. It is cute now but it is going to grow up and pee and poop all over, stink up the house, eat your shoes." Oh by the way, our 160lb English Mastiff is a good dog, but she pees and poops all over the backyard and farts worse than a sailor!! ) 

Interesting enough...Most neuroscientists would tell you that a logical thinker is an emotional thinker also. They just think they're being logical but the brain is only filling in the gaps of an emotional response.

[Roscoe Pound]

I'm going to suggest a few things.  One, I've been negative about the direction of the program over the latter half of the season.  Anyone who has been on the board over the past 2 months has seen some of the questions I have had about this staff... sometimes those questions have been beaten to death.  I'm going to lower my volume on being negative.  I still have a lot of questions about the direction of the program... but I've pointed those out and I'm not going to restate them. Having said that, if I have a new question or viewpoint... and that raises some "pointy" type questions.... I'm going to put those out there (the recruiting class signee day is coming up).  Two.  The folks who are optimistic about the future of the program need to tone down their rebuttals to anyone who doesn't agree with their optimistic viewpoint.  Some questions about QB development, about team leadership, about mental toughness are legitimate questions for any program that has 4 losses in one season... 3 of them blowouts.  9 - 4, 10 - 4, 10 - 4, 9 - 4 over 4 years is not an upward trend.  It's a good record, but it's not winning more games in successive seasons (well it is from 2008 to 2009).  If you disagree with someone, please offer an answer beyond saying the person is a Kool-Aid drinker or a negative Nancy.  

For me... the QB situation is a hot button.  And I have heard no good explanation on why this staff moved a guy who was a QB (Jamal Turner) and moved him to WR when we have a serious lack of depth at QB.  I understand we had Green, Spano, Carnes, Kellogg, whoever else on the depth chart.  But before the season started we knew that Spano was gone due to injuries, Green was going to transfer because he wasn't good enough to beat out Martinez.  Why wasn't JT given the chance to compete against Martinez?  Has Pelini given an answer to this... other than to say we needed JT's skill set on the field immediately... at a position where we appear to have more depth that at QB?  I've read other boards, sports columnists... and that question is out there.  And frankly, Pelini's answer doesn't pass the smell test.  

One more important thing.  Those who have questioned things lately about Nebraska football are not bad fans.  99% of them bleed Cornhusker red.  Can some of their concerns be less repetitive?  Sure.  But they are not bad fans because they raise questions about some of things stated above.  They are not any worse than any fan who thinks the program is moving in the right direction.  And I do appreciate those fans who point out signs the program is moving in the right direction.  

We all want Nebraska football to be successful.  More successful than it's been the last 4, 8, 10 years.  Let's try and remember that.  

I think this enhances what we are talking about here.

In addition, this is not to achieve kumbyah, it is to expect at least a level of courtesy if not respect for the other. Courtesy is a solve value.

[Valiantsailor]

Ummmm I think most are solvers here, but alas when our reasoning is downplayed or ignored turn to complaining.  But beyond complaining and solving there are dozens of categories to fit us all in.  Its not just black and white.

[Roscoe Pound]

Ummmm I think most are solvers here, but alas when our reasoning is downplayed or ignored turn to complaining.  But beyond complaining and solving there are dozens of categories to fit us all in.  Its not just black and white.

The challenge here is that most think they are solvers. One person's solution is another's crackpot idea.  It's always the other guy. The inability to see one's self and take individual or personal responsibility is where it begins and the key to this is basic courtesy.

[tfree32]

Complaints are a sign of excitement, usually in an effort to ward off change.  Criticism is a one aspect of complaint, just in a direction to steer towards an expected goal.  The problem for some is that they complain now when it should have been done the day TO retired.  He had one more MNC in him.

I complained a lot when Osborne retired.  My complaints went something like this.....

It took TO 20 years as a head coach to really figure things out.  Once he did, he gave us the greatest five years in the history of NU football.  But then he retired when he was way too young and had a lot of good years left.  And on the way out the door he stuck us with Solich.    

In fairness to TO, his health was incredibly poor when he retired. That was around the time Nebraska was recruiting my brother and I got to see him firsthand a few times. And he looked like absolute crap. He looked tired, old and just worn out. He seemed confused, disoriented and really just out of it. My mom saw him at a gas station several months later when he was lost and needed directions. She said he was possibly even worse...just incredibly befuddled and lost. Based on my interactions and my mom's observation, I frankly didn't expect him to be around much longer. I've very glad he is. But by the end of his coaching career, it seemed to me that he desperately needed a career change and to escape from the stress. You can't begrudge a guy that. I'd rather have him around than see him keel over on the field.

[Valiantsailor]

Ummmm I think most are solvers here, but alas when our reasoning is downplayed or ignored turn to complaining.  But beyond complaining and solving there are dozens of categories to fit us all in.  Its not just black and white.

The challenge here is that most think they are solvers. One person's solution is another's crackpot idea.  It's always the other guy. The inability to see one's self and take individual or personal responsibility is where it begins and the key to this is basic courtesy.

I agree with that, like making a corner out of a WR!

[Jarhead Husker]

I'm going to suggest a few things.  One, I've been negative about the direction of the program over the latter half of the season.  Anyone who has been on the board over the past 2 months has seen some of the questions I have had about this staff... sometimes those questions have been beaten to death.  I'm going to lower my volume on being negative.  I still have a lot of questions about the direction of the program... but I've pointed those out and I'm not going to restate them. Having said that, if I have a new question or viewpoint... and that raises some "pointy" type questions.... I'm going to put those out there (the recruiting class signee day is coming up).  Two.  The folks who are optimistic about the future of the program need to tone down their rebuttals to anyone who doesn't agree with their optimistic viewpoint.  Some questions about QB development, about team leadership, about mental toughness are legitimate questions for any program that has 4 losses in one season... 3 of them blowouts.  9 - 4, 10 - 4, 10 - 4, 9 - 4 over 4 years is not an upward trend.  It's a good record, but it's not winning more games in successive seasons (well it is from 2008 to 2009).  If you disagree with someone, please offer an answer beyond saying the person is a Kool-Aid drinker or a negative Nancy.  

For me... the QB situation is a hot button.  And I have heard no good explanation on why this staff moved a guy who was a QB (Jamal Turner) and moved him to WR when we have a serious lack of depth at QB.  I understand we had Green, Spano, Carnes, Kellogg, whoever else on the depth chart.  But before the season started we knew that Spano was gone due to injuries, Green was going to transfer because he wasn't good enough to beat out Martinez.  Why wasn't JT given the chance to compete against Martinez?  Has Pelini given an answer to this... other than to say we needed JT's skill set on the field immediately... at a position where we appear to have more depth that at QB?  I've read other boards, sports columnists... and that question is out there.  And frankly, Pelini's answer doesn't pass the smell test.  

One more important thing.  Those who have questioned things lately about Nebraska football are not bad fans.  99% of them bleed Cornhusker red.  Can some of their concerns be less repetitive?  Sure.  But they are not bad fans because they raise questions about some of things stated above.  They are not any worse than any fan who thinks the program is moving in the right direction.  And I do appreciate those fans who point out signs the program is moving in the right direction.  

We all want Nebraska football to be successful.  More successful than it's been the last 4, 8, 10 years.  Let's try and remember that.  

I think this enhances what we are talking about here.

In addition, this is not to achieve kumbyah, it is to expect at least a level of courtesy if not respect for the other. Courtesy is a solve value.

I agree with this. I can handle being wrong. I've been married 21 years, so I'm used to it. The only time I get a bit agitated is when the ridicule, belittling, and namecalling/ labeling starts.

[Red Ghost]

Complaints are a sign of excitement, usually in an effort to ward off change.  Criticism is a one aspect of complaint, just in a direction to steer towards an expected goal.  The problem for some is that they complain now when it should have been done the day TO retired.  He had one more MNC in him.

I complained a lot when Osborne retired.  My complaints went something like this.....

It took TO 20 years as a head coach to really figure things out.  Once he did, he gave us the greatest five years in the history of NU football.  But then he retired when he was way too young and had a lot of good years left.  And on the way out the door he stuck us with Solich.    

In fairness to TO, his health was incredibly poor when he retired. That was around the time Nebraska was recruiting my brother and I got to see him firsthand a few times. And he looked like absolute crap. He looked tired, old and just worn out. He seemed confused, disoriented and really just out of it. My mom saw him at a gas station several months later when he was lost and needed directions. She said he was possibly even worse...just incredibly befuddled and lost. Based on my interactions and my mom's observation, I frankly didn't expect him to be around much longer. I've very glad he is. But by the end of his coaching career, it seemed to me that he desperately needed a career change and to escape from the stress. You can't begrudge a guy that. I'd rather have him around than see him keel over on the field.

I can't argue with that!

[OhioHusker43065]

Ummmm I think most are solvers here, but alas when our reasoning is downplayed or ignored turn to complaining.  But beyond complaining and solving there are dozens of categories to fit us all in.  Its not just black and white.

The challenge here is that most think they are solvers. One person's solution is another's crackpot idea.  It's always the other guy. The inability to see one's self and take individual or personal responsibility is where it begins and the key to this is basic courtesy.

I am a solver, at work, where people depend on me to help them with their problems.  I don't pretend to be here, it's not my job.