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matthew_m_g
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« on: November 02, 2007, 08:33:52 AM »
If you go to Wal-Mart's website (if you haven't already), they're offering a Toshiba 720p/1080i HD-DVD player for $99.99, and you still fill out the coupon (available online) to get 5 free HD-DVD movies.  

Didn't know if anyone has seen this, but it's an excellent deal.  Great player (upconverts regular DVDs to 720p/1080i as well, plays DVD-R/RWs, has an Ethernet jack so it can get firmware updates, etc.) and a great format too (likely going to win the 'format wars'--first time a superior technology has done so in quite some time...) and a lot of great movies for it, and it's a win/win if you've got a HDTV and you're lookin' for something to play on it (other than 360 games, at any rate.)  Tongue

Supposedly Best Buy, Circuit City, and anyone else selling HD-DVD is also matching Wal-Mart's price on the player.  Between this and the upcoming cheap HD-DVD player they're going to have on the real Black Friday (some cheapo Chinese HD-DVD player that's going to be around the same price point...), folks with HDTV and HD-DVD are going to be winners this holiday season.  Cheesy
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2007, 12:21:05 PM »
I haven't gotten into the HD-DVD players yet, but what are the true HD (1080p) going for?
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2007, 01:46:18 PM »
HD-DVD is definitely not winning the war right now. Blu-Ray has a hold of it and it doesn't look like it's going to be letting go of that lead any time soon.
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2007, 08:22:42 PM »
blu-ray is so much better than hd dvd because it holds 25 gb's of memory per layer while hd dvd holds somewhere in the 14-17 area i cant remember
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2007, 03:07:46 AM »
Sony also won the Betamax vs. VHS war...
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2007, 07:46:46 PM »
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HD-DVD is definitely not winning the war right now. Blu-Ray has a hold of it and it doesn't look like it's going to be letting go of that lead any time soon.


Um, that's not true at all.  It's at least 55% HD-DVD to 45% Blu-Ray, and both stand-alone players and media sales have trumped Blu-Ray consistently.  Add to that places like Netflix.com indicating that HD-DVD rentals are consistently renting better than Blu-Ray, and the fact that retailers are starting to drop Blu-Ray from their shelves (K-Mart, Wal-Mart is rumored to make it official in '08 and HD-DVD is going to be in their Black Friday ad, whereas Blu-Ray will be stuck in the corner crying...) and it easily the better of the two formats to hitch a wagon to at this point.

Then again, Blu-Ray is the inferior format this go-around (MPEG-2 Codecs?  Seriously...), so based on format histories in the past (inferior format typically has won), it is rather apt if it were to win.  That, and having your wagon hitched to a Hindenburg of a system (PS3) doesn't help any either.
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2007, 07:52:04 PM »
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blu-ray is so much better than hd dvd because it holds 25 gb's of memory per layer while hd dvd holds somewhere in the 14-17 area i cant remember


You're sort of correct...

Blu-Ray does do 20-25GB/Layer, but they're limited to three layers (two for sure, third hasn't been done yet, but they're trying.)

HD-DVD does 18-20GB/Layer, but it can have up to eight layers, and they're using three-layer disks now.  

 Add to that the fact that HD-DVD uses MPEG-4 standard Codecs (best codec available for pushing data/sound through, very little lost) compared to MPEG-2 (needs more room for storage, support for sound above 5.1 DTS is shoehorned in), and the memory issue is really more or less a red herring in this debate--both formats have more than enough memory to do the job, and some.  

Mind you, HD-DVD can be expanded more than Blu-Ray for a higher possible overall memory capacity, but again, that's really moot at this point.  Maybe not in 5 years or so, but now it is.
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2007, 07:58:33 PM »
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I haven't gotten into the HD-DVD players yet, but what are the true HD (1080p) going for?


Sears will have one on Black Friday for $179 I believe that's 1080p.  It's a Toshiba to boot.  And Wal-Mart will have a different HD-DVD player for Black Friday as a doorbuster at a similar price to the one they sold Friday, but no one knows the specs yet of it.
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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2008, 09:54:46 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2008, 08:09:47 AM »
http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/

Sorry to bring facts into your Playstation hate-fest.  Wink
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2008, 09:57:22 AM »
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http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/

Sorry to bring facts into your Playstation hate-fest.  Wink


Not sure how relevant that article is...it's 2 1/2 years old.  If you want facts, how about the fact that HD-DVD is discontinued by Toshiba.
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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2008, 02:40:08 PM »
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Quote from: "mrcold"
http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/

Sorry to bring facts into your Playstation hate-fest.  Wink


Not sure how relevant that article is...it's 2 1/2 years old.  If you want facts, how about the fact that HD-DVD is discontinued by Toshiba.


It still disputed his claims of capabilities of both, and as you said, that was as of 2.5 years ago.

I don't think (almost) anyone is disagreeing that HD-DVD is dead, I'm just making fun of the denial.
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