Realistic Coaching Candidates

[BigRedArmy]

Little doubt right now that TO will speak with these three at least:

John Groce
Bruce Weber
Dana Altman

Of the three (of course, I am guessing there will be more in the mix), the one getting the most noise is Groce. We will see! (I don't think Altman is the guy although I like him. His resume isn't as good as some would believe if you look at tourney wins. I think I would prefer Groce over Altman and maybe Weber too.)

My choice of the 3 would be Groce.  Not a big fan of Weber.  If Groce is the top choice, I don't believe anything will happen until after the tourney or Ohio is knocked out.

Is there any connection between Groce and NU?

And laugh all you want, I still hear strong grumblings about Altman.

[Capn Krunch]

Creighton has a nice thing going. The point is, win the MVC and you are a #5-8 seed, win the B1G and you are a #1. You can only go so far as a Creighton. There is a much higher ceiling in the B1G. NU comes no where near that ceiling, but at least we have a chance.

[BigRedArmy]

Creighton has a nice thing going. The point is, win the MVC and you are a #5-8 seed, win the B1G and you are a #1. You can only go so far as a Creighton. There is a much higher ceiling in the B1G. NU comes no where near that ceiling, but at least we have a chance.

You summed up in 5 sentences what I couldn't in multiple posts.

Nice job.

I don't know if NU will ever enjoy the same success in the Big 10 that Creighton has had in the MVC, but the ceiling is much higher in the Big 10/Big 12.

BUT, if you were to take Creighton (as is) and transplant them in either conference (Big 10 or Big 12), they might not be in the top 4 teams, but they would certainly fare better than NU has done.  I would put them at least middle of the pack.

[tfree32]

Creighton has a nice thing going. The point is, win the MVC and you are a #5-8 seed, win the B1G and you are a #1. You can only go so far as a Creighton. There is a much higher ceiling in the B1G. NU comes no where near that ceiling, but at least we have a chance.

You summed up in 5 sentences what I couldn't in multiple posts.

Nice job.

I don't know if NU will ever enjoy the same success in the Big 10 that Creighton has had in the MVC, but the ceiling is much higher in the Big 10/Big 12.

BUT, if you were to take Creighton (as is) and transplant them in either conference (Big 10 or Big 12), they might not be in the top 4 teams, but they would certainly fare better than NU has done.  I would put them at least middle of the pack.

I think that's a fair assessment. I also think that over time, being in a conference like the Big Ten or Big 12 would allow Creighton to recruit higher-level players.

[BigRedArmy]

I agree about Weber.  He seemed to have his best success with Self's recruits and then fell off once he was on his own.

We'll see, to tell you the truth, I hold out hope, but I truly believe NU basketball is just plain cursed.  Facilities or not, history has shown you come here to get fired.

Like I said before, if Doc couldn't do it, who can?  Doc was one of the best mid-majors in the country at the time he was hired and wasn't able to do it.

[Bummerbry]

Little doubt right now that TO will speak with these three at least:

John Groce
Bruce Weber
Dana Altman

Of the three (of course, I am guessing there will be more in the mix), the one getting the most noise is Groce. We will see! (I don't think Altman is the guy although I like him. His resume isn't as good as some would believe if you look at tourney wins. I think I would prefer Groce over Altman and maybe Weber too.)

My choice of the 3 would be Groce.  Not a big fan of Weber.  If Groce is the top choice, I don't believe anything will happen until after the tourney or Ohio is knocked out.

Is there any connection between Groce and NU?

And laugh all you want, I still hear strong grumblings about Altman.

None that I am aware of. Just his name seems to be being thrown around a lot and he is known as not only a solid HC but a very good recruiter. Ohio State hated losing him!

As much as Altman is a solid X's and O's guy (and a Nebraskan) if what those who consult coaching searches for CBB say about the #1 thing about NU's next coach should be, Altman isn't the best guy. From what I read, for a team in our position, recruiting is the main thing needed. That said, I would not be surprised in the slightest if  TO went with Altman. We know for a fact they will speak.

Does anyone know if TO is using any consultants? Has he spoken with Delaney for ideas? From what I read Delaney can and will help A LOT with this process.

[Roscoe Pound]

I agree about Weber.  He seemed to have his best success with Self's recruits and then fell off once he was on his own.

We'll see, to tell you the truth, I hold out hope, but I truly believe NU basketball is just plain cursed.  Facilities or not, history has shown you come here to get fired.

Like I said before, if Doc couldn't do it, who can?  Doc was one of the best mid-majors in the country at the time he was hired and wasn't able to do it.

There is no institutional basketball culture at UNL.  Football was born at UNL,  basketball is the afterbirth...

[Bummerbry]

I agree about Weber.  He seemed to have his best success with Self's recruits and then fell off once he was on his own.

We'll see, to tell you the truth, I hold out hope, but I truly believe NU basketball is just plain cursed.  Facilities or not, history has shown you come here to get fired.

Like I said before, if Doc couldn't do it, who can?  Doc was one of the best mid-majors in the country at the time he was hired and wasn't able to do it.

There is no institutional basketball culture at UNL.  Football was born at UNL,  basketball is the afterbirth...

I think it can be changed with the right coach and some success on the court. There is really no reason it cannot.

[Big Papi]

Creighton has a nice thing going. The point is, win the MVC and you are a #5-8 seed, win the B1G and you are a #1. You can only go so far as a Creighton. There is a much higher ceiling in the B1G. NU comes no where near that ceiling, but at least we have a chance.

The ceiling should always be the top of the conference.  There is no excuse at this time why NU should not compete for the top.  I have always thought NU could be a major player in basketball with the right facilities and coach.  TO will get the job done.  It will be slow process, but I expect that in a couple years NU will be competing for the conference championship.

[SUHnami]

I agree about Weber.  He seemed to have his best success with Self's recruits and then fell off once he was on his own.

We'll see, to tell you the truth, I hold out hope, but I truly believe NU basketball is just plain cursed.  Facilities or not, history has shown you come here to get fired.

Like I said before, if Doc couldn't do it, who can?  Doc was one of the best mid-majors in the country at the time he was hired and wasn't able to do it.

There is no institutional basketball culture at UNL.  Football was born at UNL,  basketball is the afterbirth...

I think it can be changed with the right coach and some success on the court. There is really no reason it cannot.

With the right coach it could change.  Thing is though he would probably leave for a more lucrative job, then we'd be right back where we were.  Point is, NU basketball will never match NU football. 

[LarstheRed]

Creighton has a nice thing going. The point is, win the MVC and you are a #5-8 seed, win the B1G and you are a #1. You can only go so far as a Creighton. There is a much higher ceiling in the B1G. NU comes no where near that ceiling, but at least we have a chance.

The ceiling should always be the top of the conference.  There is no excuse at this time why NU should not compete for the top.  I have always thought NU could be a major player in basketball with the right facilities and coach.  TO will get the job done.  It will be slow process, but I expect that in a couple years NU will be competing for the conference championship.

There are very few teams that compete equally strong in the 2 major sports, basketball and football. Out of the top 25 hoop teams you can really only consider Ohio State and Wiscy as having teams that in the last few years consistantly been potential championship contenders in both sports. Florida, Michigan, Michigan ST and Mizzou could be kind of considered as good at both, but not at a championship level.




It is very difficult to get the kind of financial comitment needed as well as fan support at most large schools. That becomes even more challenging when you are looking at schools in smaller population areas. This isn't going to be an easy task by any stretch of the imagination.

[Busticket]

I agree about Weber.  He seemed to have his best success with Self's recruits and then fell off once he was on his own.

We'll see, to tell you the truth, I hold out hope, but I truly believe NU basketball is just plain cursed.  Facilities or not, history has shown you come here to get fired.

Like I said before, if Doc couldn't do it, who can?  Doc was one of the best mid-majors in the country at the time he was hired and wasn't able to do it.

There is no institutional basketball culture at UNL.  Football was born at UNL,  basketball is the afterbirth...

I think it can be changed with the right coach and some success on the court. There is really no reason it cannot.

Wisconsin did it when they swung for the fences and brought in Stu Jackson, who brought in Rashard Griffith.    Jackson was only there for a cup of coffee but it got the ball rolling, and then the AD did a nice job with the follow up hires to keep the momentum going.

[HuskerFan2002]

This is Nebraska's window of opportunity to try to get the best coach possible. You've got the new practice facility and a new arena being built. Try to go after a proven coach. Osborne has to pay the guy a lot of money, but so be it. They have the money. If the coach says, "No thanks", that's fine, but at least we would all know that Osborne TRIED to get the best coach out there, not automatically assuming a proven head coach will never come to Nebraska without even trying to get him.

[helenahusker]

The word I got following the Montana State Basketball Tournament last weekend, which included a mandatory coaches clinic, is that University of Montana coach Wayne Tinkle has been contacted by Nebraska, and that he was in Nebraska following the Big Sky Conference tourney that U of M clinched last week. . . .

My source clearly didn't make this up, but he clearly didn't talk to Wayne Tinkle. My source is very well connected with Montana basketball so I consider him credible.

[SUHnami]

The word I got following the Montana State Basketball Tournament last weekend, which included a mandatory coaches clinic, is that University of Montana coach Wayne Tinkle has been contacted by Nebraska, and that he was in Nebraska following the Big Sky Conference tourney that U of M clinched last week. . . .

My source clearly didn't make this up, but he clearly didn't talk to Wayne Tinkle. My source is very well connected with Montana basketball so I consider him credible.

HE may have met with NU, but I'd be royally ticked off if they hired him.