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« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2012, 05:17:44 AM »

Actually I hope Uban does crack. Ohio State is going to be very hard to beat from here on out. Good thing we have a good defensive mind as HC, he understands how to defend that type of offense.
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« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2012, 08:43:57 AM »

My bet... Meyer will have OSU in a BCS bowl this season.  And I don't think we win at Columbus either. 

I'll take the bet.

OSU can't participate in a BCS Bowl this year.

Thank you Solly.  I lost that bet.  How about the game in Columbus?  You think we're going to beat OSU?
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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2012, 08:48:56 AM »

Urban Meyer #1? Seriously? He hasn't coached a single game in the BigTen. Great pedigree, but needs to prove it again. I respect him enough to not drop him below #4, but come on. At least Brady Hoke has made a big spash in the BigTen in 2011.

He couldn't handle the stress at Fla, wonder how long mentally he will last in the B1G. Maybe the Fla thing was a ploy to get out of Hell, maybe not?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the B1G will be to hard to handle mentally for Urban Myer.  After dominating the SEC for 6 years and winning 2 national championships, I'm just not sure he can handle the Big 10.  I bet he cracks by week 9 in this league. 

If he hasn't learned anything from the Florida job, I think what you say is possible.  However, he didn't crack up at Bowling Green or Utah... though those jobs are a lot less stressful from national and fan expectation levels than Florida or Ohio State. 

Off subject... but I think Meyer is going to end up at Notre Dame.  I don't think Kelly is the guy to get them turned around.
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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2012, 09:39:19 AM »

My bet... Meyer will have OSU in a BCS bowl this season.  And I don't think we win at Columbus either. 

I'll take the bet.

OSU can't participate in a BCS Bowl this year.

Thats going to be a hoot.
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« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2012, 03:00:37 PM »

Latest rankings... this time by the Sporting News.  Pelini is 6th.  Athlon had him 7th. 

Not sure what the criteria is for these rankings.  I think Hoke, Meyer and BB are better, right now, than Pelini.  I think he's the 4th best coach in the Big 10... and hopefully moving up. 

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2012-05-02/college-football-coach-rankings-big-ten-urban-meyer-bret-bielema-mark-dantonio
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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2012, 03:36:56 PM »

Urban Meyer #1? Seriously? He hasn't coached a single game in the BigTen. Great pedigree, but needs to prove it again. I respect him enough to not drop him below #4, but come on. At least Brady Hoke has made a big spash in the BigTen in 2011.

He couldn't handle the stress at Fla, wonder how long mentally he will last in the B1G. Maybe the Fla thing was a ploy to get out of Hell, maybe not?

My bet... Meyer will have OSU in a BCS bowl this season.  And I don't think we win at Columbus either. 

They aren't bowl eligible this season.   Wink
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« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2012, 03:39:34 PM »

Latest rankings... this time by the Sporting News.  Pelini is 6th.  Athlon had him 7th. 

Not sure what the criteria is for these rankings.  I think Hoke, Meyer and BB are better, right now, than Pelini.  I think he's the 4th best coach in the Big 10... and hopefully moving up. 

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2012-05-02/college-football-coach-rankings-big-ten-urban-meyer-bret-bielema-mark-dantonio

I don't mind them placing him 6th.  Means he has nowhere to go but up.   Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2012, 05:36:14 PM »

My bet... Meyer will have OSU in a BCS bowl this season.  And I don't think we win at Columbus either. 

I'll take the bet.

OSU can't participate in a BCS Bowl this year.

Thank you Solly.  I lost that bet.  How about the game in Columbus?  You think we're going to beat OSU?

I will NOT take that bet. I think he is the best coach in the conference. He has the championships to back it up.  Its all about the rings.  Guy will have OSU back to a freaking power house in 2 to 3 years tops.  He has access to some of the best talent in the country and can flat out recruit.  He also has access to the biggest football budget in division I football.  How can you think he won't succeed?  I do not like the guy at all, but he is the real deal.
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« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2012, 05:37:08 PM »

Latest rankings... this time by the Sporting News.  Pelini is 6th.  Athlon had him 7th.  

Not sure what the criteria is for these rankings.  I think Hoke, Meyer and BB are better, right now, than Pelini.  I think he's the 4th best coach in the Big 10... and hopefully moving up.  

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2012-05-02/college-football-coach-rankings-big-ten-urban-meyer-bret-bielema-mark-dantonio

Weis is ranked 6th and hasn't coached a game at Kansas yet.

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« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2012, 09:26:56 PM »

Here's mine...

1. Urban Meyer - Can't argue with the Championships.  We'll see if he can keep it up.  I suspect he will.
2. Mark Dantonio - Does more with less.  Does a great job on game day.  Beats coaches who have more talented teams.
3. Bo Pelini - One of a very small list of coaches to win at least 9 games every season in their first 4 years as a HC.  Took his team to 2 Big 12 title games.  Still needs to be more consistent and avoid losses to lesser teams.
4. Bret Bielema - While he has a good overall record he too often gets out-coached on game day despite having the better team (Michigan State 2011, OSU 2011, Michigan State 2010, TCU Rose Bowl).  Clear and obvious coaching mistakes in all of these games.
5. Pat Fitzgerald - The record doesn't reflect his greatness as a HC because he coaches at NW, but he regularly does more with less and is a known giant killer.  His players always appear well coached and are always well prepared, and the team is exponentially greater than the sum of its parts.  That's great coaching. 
6. Brady Hoke - As a HC, he's barely over .500.  He had a good season in his first year as HC at Michigan, but it will take more than one good season against a weak schedule to elevate Hoke into the upper class of the B1G.  He may very well earn it, but until then he's had just that, one good season.
7. Kirk Ferentz - Has had some really good seasons in the past but appears to be on a downward trend and in the new B1G it is unlikely to see him in a title game in the near future.  On a positive note, he develops his players to the best of their ability and is one of the few coaches out there who can shine a turd.
8. Jerry Kill - Kill is a really good coach, but is anyone up to the task at Minnesota?  If he can turn the Gophers around he should climb near the top pf this list.
9. Tim Beckman - Proved he's a good MAC coach.  Show me the money, Tim.
10. Danny Hope - He's kept a middle of the pack team in the middle of the pack.
11. Kevin Wilson - He has one more win in the B1G than both me and Bill O’Brien.
12. Bill O’Brien - As a head CFB coach he has as many wins as I do.
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« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2012, 11:30:30 AM »

Sporting News ranks head coasches


3. Urban Meyer, Ohio State
5. Bob Stoops, Oklahoma
11. Bill Snyder, Kansas State
12. Bret Bielema, Wisconsin
13. Mark Dantonio, Michigan State
16. Mack Brown, Texas
17. Mike Leach, Washington State
20. Lane Kiffin, USC
24. Brady Hoke, Michigan
26. Gary Pinkel, Missouri
33. Kirk Ferentz, Iowa

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37. Bo Pelini, Nebraska
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Huskers fans aren’t satisfied with Pelini’s results—four consecutive four-loss seasons—nor should they be. But Pelini has won nine games twice and 10 games twice, and his 5-3 debut in Big Ten play was more good than bad. Perhaps more slowly than anticipated, Pelini is reviving top-quality defense in Lincoln. If quarterback Taylor Martinez is a better player in 2012, as Pelini swears he is, the Huskers could be back in the BCS mix at last.  

43. Frank Solich, Ohio

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« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2012, 12:25:22 PM »

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http://www.athlonsports.com/college-football/ranking-big-tens-college-football-coaches

I might rank Pelini above Ferentz... may be not.  Going into the Big 10 last year... I had Pelini higher on the list.  I think he's ranked about right for 2012.

I think he's higher than Ferentz, who's consistently one of the most overrated coaches in the country.  Particularly considering what he's paid.
I agree. He sure must be able to negotiate though, because he is making a ton of money for those mediocre results.. Huh
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« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2012, 02:49:34 PM »

Fitzgerald should be in the top 3...
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« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2012, 10:36:52 PM »

Sporting News ranks head coasches


3. Urban Meyer, Ohio State
5. Bob Stoops, Oklahoma
11. Bill Snyder, Kansas State
12. Bret Bielema, Wisconsin
13. Mark Dantonio, Michigan State
16. Mack Brown, Texas
17. Mike Leach, Washington State
20. Lane Kiffin, USC
24. Brady Hoke, Michigan
26. Gary Pinkel, Missouri
33. Kirk Ferentz, Iowa

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37. Bo Pelini, Nebraska
Age: 44
2011 record: 9-4, 5-3 Big Ten
At Nebraska (4 years, plus one game as interim coach in 2003): 39-16
FBS career: Same  

Huskers fans aren’t satisfied with Pelini’s results—four consecutive four-loss seasons—nor should they be. But Pelini has won nine games twice and 10 games twice, and his 5-3 debut in Big Ten play was more good than bad. Perhaps more slowly than anticipated, Pelini is reviving top-quality defense in Lincoln. If quarterback Taylor Martinez is a better player in 2012, as Pelini swears he is, the Huskers could be back in the BCS mix at last.  

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« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2012, 10:00:18 AM »

I would rank Meyer, Hoke, Bielema, and Dantonio over Pelini.  After that, it doesn't become so obvious.  Ferentz has accomplished more than Pelini as an HC.  By year 4 at Iowa, he won the Big 10 and took his team to a BCS bowl.  Based on that, I'd rank Ferentz over Pelini.  Pat Fitzgerald did outcoach Pelini in Lincoln with an inferior team.  I do think Fitz is a pretty good coach, but I wouldn't rank him over Pelini. 

6th best coach in the Big 10 seems about right. 
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